Is This Hypocrisy?

21 May

Came across this one: and it makes me wonder about something.

If someone says they’re against killing people – but they quote a biblical verse that says someone needs to die, which thing do you believe?  I get that the devoutly religious, God-fearing people of this country are against homosexuality in any form and, as they are wont to do, will quote Leviticus 20:13 in a heartbeat.  Now, if they really believe in this – and they must; otherwise, why bother to haul it out at every turn in this – then how can they say that they’d never endorse killing someone behind it?

But, ya see, we’re just not talking about a Southern minister – this guy’s a politician, too, so maybe some double-talking is just a matter of course?  His saying he believes in the sanctity of life – but quoting Leviticus – well, does it send a mixed message… and is this the minister talking or the politician railing against the president’s statement about gay marriage?  I’d tend to lean more toward the minister talking since he said the only opinion that matters is God’s.

The other thing that struck me about this is that all over the country – and for quite some time – God is being taken out of places where He used to reside, like court rooms, schools, and other such places; the removal of the Ten Commandments from a southern state office building got a lot a press some time ago.  So, ain’t it just funny that something like this comes along… and detractors invoke the Word of God when, in a court of law, you can’t even swear to God that you’re telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

It seems to me that when the states are doing things to remove any religious overtones, um, they don’t get to bring any to the party just because they don’t like something that someone had to say about it… or do they?

The man says that the president’s statement is poor social policy; it seems to me ignoring what is a rather large and no longer hidden segment of our population and using the current morality to say that they don’t have the same rights as everyone else in the country could be construed as poor social policy as well – and doing this doesn’t help politicians at the voting places.

Gays can say, with justification, that they get to do what other Americans get to do, like work and pay taxes (and vote) out the ass but when it comes to their pursuit of happiness, nope, can’t do that, uh-uh, bible says you can’t and in those ancient times, you and your partner would both be put to death.  Not too hard to see why the gay population might have something to say about that.

And, really, if he didn’t want people to know how he really felt about this, um, putting on his Facebook page was the wrong thing to do; then again, people are forever putting shit on their Facebook page that’s better left off of their computers so that he did this doesn’t surprise me a whole lot.  Maybe he wanted to take advantage of the surge in social networking (even though Facebook’s newly minted public stock is tanking big time) but, hmm, maybe he didn’t quite understand how that works; if he did, then he would have known that with the way people get linked together, someone was going to see what he said… and raise hell about it.

What, did he really think that he could use that particular quote and it not be seen as him endorsing death for homosexuals?  He’d been better off quoting Leviticus 18:22 – kinda says the same thing without the fatal overtones and, for this context, is probably more PC…

Bet he didn’t think it would get him so much national attention, either – and, apparently, the wrong kind of attention…


Posted by on 21 May 2012 in Life, Living and Loving


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10 responses to “Is This Hypocrisy?

  1. marriagecoach1

    22 May 2012 at 13:10

    As a minister, he should be aware that Romans 1 took away the death penalty prescribed in the OT


    • kdaddy23

      22 May 2012 at 14:41

      I’m thinking that he probably does know that… but he, um, neglected to point this out; indeed, to make his point against homosexuality, mentioning Romans 1 doesn’t get the message across. I dunno John… I kinda don’t see the point of continually pointing out what Leviticus says because (1) it’s not like no one is aware of it and (2) duh, people are still homosexual despite being aware of it. The argument I’ve heard about this is that if God didn’t want us to be homosexual, He wouldn’t have made it possible to be homosexual – and it really becomes an argument when a devoutly religious person is on the other side of the conversation.

      I’m thinking that homosexuals don’t really buy into this because when they ask why it’s so wrong, the only answer they get back is, “Because God said so!” and, for them, well, that’s not really an answer; it’s not like saying to them that it is forbidden because it doesn’t promote or lend itself to perpetuation of the species. That’s enough of an answer for homosexuals to say, well, okay – I get that… but we’re not trying to perpetuate anything other than our love (or lust) for each other – and homosexuality persists.

      In the end, this guy probably wishes now that he hadn’t put that on his Facebook page, no matter how much he believes in the sinful nature of it. To that end, yeah, it makes sense for a minister to speak out against it… but not so much a good thing for a politician to say these days, not when this is a hot-button issue in upcoming campaigns all across the country. Personally, I think it was a dumb thing to do, given how sensitive homosexuals are about their situation so invoking Leviticus 20:13 where they could see it was like waving a red cape in front of a pissed-off bull and, yeah, they were going to see it as him wanting homosexuals put to death for their sin.


  2. marriagecoach1

    22 May 2012 at 18:24

    Well Romans 1 still condemns it but does not call for the death penalty. Most people who are sinning want to reject biblical teaching because we are goring their ox so to speak. Most people don’t want to be confronted in their own sin and get all angry and defensive. I will never forget a bible professor in school who told us that people in the pews are all for preaching against sin in general but once you start preaching against individual sins then you went from preaching to meddling in their view. You can say the same thing for abortion and people get all angry and say that the bible does not apply. In other words just plug in your sin and people will make an excuse why the Bible does not apply to them.


    • kdaddy23

      22 May 2012 at 21:57

      Well, ain’t that the way most things go around here? The rules/laws apply to everyone except “me?” What gets interesting is when you ask them why they feel it doesn’t apply to them. Then again, if you’re not a believer, how can the rules apply… or do they because the religious and moral side of things says you have to obey even if you don’t believe? Or, “you” firmly believe it’s a sin and an abomination… so that means “I” have to believe it because you believe it?

      Is it me or is there something wrong with this picture?


  3. marriagecoach1

    23 May 2012 at 10:24

    Well our law is based upon English common law which was based upon the bible. Our founding fathers were overwhelmingly christian. The Bible is the only source or moral absolutes. Everything else is situation ethics where many people see nothing wrong with sex between men and boys. Anyone is free to reject God and the Bible, but we can’t reject civil law.


    • kdaddy23

      23 May 2012 at 12:01

      Yep, that’s where the laws of man came from and, uh-huh, in our culture and in this country, it is illegal for grownups to be sexing the young; those who get caught get punished, as Mr. Sandusky is going to find out pretty soon.

      Those laws that protect the young don’t apply to adults having sex with each other (unless a crime, like rape, is being committed); as you have pointed out, sodomy – the “crime” male homosexuals are accused of committing, isn’t illegal anymore. The various states may still have it on their books but it’s been deemed unenforceable since sodomy happens in the privacy of one’s home and between men and women. So, if “Pete” and “Dave” are in their condo and going for what they know as legal adults, no laws have been broken… except where the bible says so.

      And therein lies the difference, yes? And, yes, even though there isn’t an adult in this country that doesn’t know that it’s illegal to have sex with children, there are those who behave as if the law doesn’t apply to them or, as my sergeants used to say in boot camp, “It ain’t illegal until you get caught!”

      In this situation, the preacher spoke as a preacher is expected to – denounce homosexuality; however, the politician that he is screwed the pooch, didn’t he? Is it hypocrisy to quote bible passages that say, in essence, “death to homosexuals” – but then turn around and say that you believe in the sanctity of life?


  4. marriagecoach1

    23 May 2012 at 12:12

    Well hypocrisy reigns and there are quacks in the pulpit along with every other profession


  5. marriagecoach1

    23 May 2012 at 12:13

    BTW I don’t support the death penalty. Too many guys have been wrongly convicted. I do believe in life in prison with no parole.l


    • kdaddy23

      23 May 2012 at 12:29

      Quacks in the pulpit? Oh, most certainly there are and some of the biggest hypocrites I know are in the pulpit, which is the one place you’d think you wouldn’t find one – but it is what it is. A lot of people don’t support the death penalty; it’s not much of a deterrent these days, the wrong people get executed, stuff like that. So, yeah, when a politician starts quoting the biblical equivalent of a death sentence, people are gonna get bent; like I said, maybe if he followed up his statement with Romans 1, there wouldn’t be a lot of people after his head – but that didn’t serve his purpose.



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