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Talkin’ Ain’t Doin’

11 Sep

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/11/20433950-pope-francis-no-2-clerical-celibacy-is-open-to-discussion?lite

I saw this while reading my RSS feeds.  First thought was, “Good, about time they had a dialog about this in the face of the ongoing scandal and other incidents that haven’t been mainstream news.”  Second thought was, um, the title of this blog.

They’re saying that celibacy isn’t church dogma but something that’s deeply entrenched in the Catholic faith as far as their priests and nuns are concerned.  Third thought was, “Is this a difference that makes a difference?”  Hmm, it’s hard to tell; not being Catholic, it sounds like dogma to me… but the Catholic Church has been around for a while.

That Pope Francis seems to be open to discussion about this, to me, is a good thing; like the article says, his predecessors refused to even talk about the matter.  The big question is are they just paying lip service to this, maybe to make the Church “look better” – or are they serious about making a change where clerical celibacy is concerned?  The next big question is should they change?

Even non-Catholics know that celibacy for their priests and nuns is one of those things where you can truly say, “That’s the way it’s always been…” which assumes that this is the way it should always be.  But this isn’t a case of “if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it” because it’s badly broken and begs the question that if those priests who have the pedophile label plastered onto them had been able to openly and freely have sex – gay or otherwise – would they have become pedophiles?

There have been reports in the past of priests (and a couple of nuns that I recall) sneaking off onto the DL and not only getting married but having children and they wound up getting defrocked behind it… but, yet another question to ponder in this is does it really matter if they’re married and having kids when it comes to being a priest or a nun?  Well, yeah, it does given that it’s against the rules as they currently stand; apparently, you can’t fully act like a human being without your faith and ability to be a shepherd of the flock being compromised.  I guess the Church never thought so even though there are many ministers of faith who are married, are fathers, and still doing a good job spreading the Word.

I’ll try to keep an eye on this just to see what, if anything, they talk about and to see if they’re all talk and no action.

Later, peeps…

 
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Posted by on 11 September 2013 in Life, Living and Loving

 

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4 responses to “Talkin’ Ain’t Doin’

  1. lifeofalovergirl

    11 September 2013 at 12:19

    I dated a guy once who was the child of a Catholic nun and priest. Yeah, those celibacy vows haven’t held up near as well as they are supposed to!! I think it would be a really difficult change for the Catholic church to “go there” after all these years but in the long run it might be for the best. It’s not required of them in the Bible, its just an interpretation of Paul’s writings so I don’t personally feel they should have made it a rule in the first place for their leaders. It is one of those Pharisee-like requirements.

    I’m not Catholic though and never have been so there are going to be lots of things I disagree with! Heck, I’m not even sure where I stand spiritually at this point. Things with my ex and his interpretation of scripture fucked me up for so long I feel like I can’t think straight on the subject. The problem with the various Christian denominations is that they are all based on the same premise and book but the leeway for interpretation is so wide that no one really knows what is right but they all think they do.

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    • kdaddy23

      11 September 2013 at 12:53

      It’s not like they don’t know that the whole celibacy thing is broken and has been broken for ages but this is one of those cases where idealism can’t stand in the face of reality for much longer. Priests and nuns are doing the deed – they’ve been doing it for a long time, too, and in different ways just like everyone else not of the clergy. One the one hand, they’re just being human while trying to be held up to what some might call an inhuman standard of behavior.

      Better them than me…

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  2. Ariela

    11 September 2013 at 17:46

    Great post. Celibacy hasn’t always been the rule in the Catholic Church. I’m sharing an interesting link with you. The church systematically got rid of marriages for priests, but it took hundreds of years. One day I’d really like to study these events in depth and try to figure out why the church has been so crazy about this celibacy thing. http://www.futurechurch.org/fpm/history.htm

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    • kdaddy23

      11 September 2013 at 18:47

      Thanks for the link and, yeah, it’s interesting. It seems to me that an understanding of how a woman could “distract” a priest from his duties was a given, that and some weird sense that being virginal was equated to purity. It’s hard to look at stuff like this and figure out just what the hell they were thinking about other than some attempt to place themselves above the common person, like their service to God made them better people because they eschewed the pleasures of the flesh… or they were supposed to but we know how that turned out on a few fronts, don’t we?

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